Original airdate: November 27, 2022
The premise: Through repeated flash forwards, we see a love story between Lisa and Nelson develop, as the two continue to bump into each other at pivotal moments in their lives.
The reaction: I really like the idea of doing future episodes, giving us a glimpse into a whole new setting with new, matured versions of our favorite characters, re-contextualized at a different point in their lives. But most of the time the show has gone to the future well, they never seem to have an interesting idea to go along with the fantastical setting. The last future episode had Lisa not wanting to go to college and she didn’t speak to Marge for decades until she was President. It was fucking terrible. Some fans seemed to enjoy “Barthood,” the Boyhood “parody,” so I guess they figured they could rip off another movie and give that a shot. So here we have When Harry Met Sally but with Lisa and Nelson, who I guess is a shipping couple to some freak fans out there. The episode matches the format of the movie, where we jump forward through time as the two characters keep running into each other, and their affection grows and grows. In the movie, Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan are college graduates sharing a commute to New York City, where they debate, banter, and confide, and the seed of their relationship is planted. This episode is built upon season 8’s “Lisa’s Date with Density,” where Lisa had a bad boy crush on Nelson, they “dated,” and went their separate ways by the time credits rolled. In this episode, we learn that Nelson and his mother moved later that year, and he and Lisa reconnect before her college graduation fourteen years later. Think about that amount of time. Lisa went through ten more years of primary school, plus four whole years of college. Think about all the people you’ve met in that time, and the impacts they made on your life. Even if a shut-in super dork like Lisa never had any serious relationships in that time, surely she had some casual friends or big crushes on people that would hold greater stock in her mind that some dumb kid she knew when she was eight. But whatever, that really doesn’t matter much, because Lisa and Nelson aren’t really fleshed out characters here, they’ve devolved into flat cliche movie characters. As what usually happens when this show attempts a genre parody, characters will speak in wink-wink dialogue meant to highlight tropes rather than actually behave like real people (“It’s all flooding back. My attraction to a bad boy, plus my compulsion to fix you!” “Your troubles are reeling me in. All I need to hear is one clumsy compliment, and I’m hooked,” “Nelson, do you think this could be one of those moments that changes your life forever?”) Lisa and Nelson never connect over anything. They don’t argue over anything. There’s absolutely nothing to latch onto between the two of them, so as we jump forward and see they’re with their own spouses, I couldn’t possibly give a shit about what happens. By the end, Lisa gives Nelson a variation of the Meg Ryan speech at the end of the movie, and it just doesn’t mean a thing. We’re shown nothing to make us care about their relationship, so we don’t. See you in a few years for the next future episode, maybe they’ll crack it next time.
Three items of note:
– Every future episode since “Lisa’s Wedding” uses the time jump as an excuse to basically make Futurama-level jokes about a technologically advanced future even though we’re only advancing a decade or two forward in time. They’re a little more restrained here (outside of Bart having an invisibility cloak for some reason?), but I’m still a little bothered that we see full on sentient AI and robots walking around in what’s just supposed to be fourteen years in the future when the episode begins. We also see the skyline of the city a few times and a lot of the buildings are just straight up Futurama buildings. Even if technology advanced that fast, they couldn’t rebuild an entire damn city in a decade and a half, especially an absolute dump of a place like Springfield.
– The final scene has Lisa and Nelson as maid of honor and best man to Jimbo and Sophie Krustofski’s wedding. Boy, I’d love to hear how those two got together. Why didn’t they just have Jimbo marry Shauna? We’ve seen the two together before, and last season had an episode where Lisa and Shauna bonded, so it would actually track that they’d stay friends. Whatever. I guess Natasha Lyonne had a free afternoon to come in to record for an hour. Also in this scene is a hologram of Rabbi Krustofski to perform the ceremony, giving us one line from Jackie Mason. He died last year, so I guess they used an unused line from a previous episode. The good Rabbi ended up having more posthumous appearances than when the character was alive, and I’m hoping that won’t be the case with Jackie Mason himself. It was kind of uncomfortable hearing a dead man’s voice come out of a dead character.
– The episode ends with another reference to When Harry Met Sally, which features interspersed segments of older couples talking about how they met (which were true stories from real people performed by actors.) Here, it’s clones of Abe Lincoln and Ronald Reagan, who were shown in the episode previously. I can’t imagine what the hell someone would be thinking who didn’t know the original context. Hell, I do know and it’s fucking bizarre.
At least it was better than Mother and Child Reunion, right?
Anyways, yeah. This is another episode to throw onto the “Forgettable Future Stories” pile.
At least this one didn’t piss me off like Mother and Child Reunion. That one had my blood boiling, whereas this one just made me want to fall asleep.
Yawn…. things aren’t looking too good for the OABF production line….
Anywho, I think the ONLY thing I will remember about this episode going forward, is that it came out on the 20th anniversary of Treasure Planet and Eight Crazy Nights, two great animated movies.
I’m sorry… Eight Crazy Nights, great? I know the Iron Giant team animated it, but come on now.
I am a man of odd tastes, I will admit. But I just find that movie so damn funny. A certified hood classic, if you ask me.
Of course, it’s not the best animated movie ever, or even the best of 2002 (which in my opinion is The Powerpuff Girls Movie).
But Eight Crazy Nights has me howling all the way through, as it has been for many holiday seasons past and many more to come.
You are redeemed by your acknowledgement of PPG supremacy.
The original cartoon, that is. I refuse to acknowledge the travesty that is the 2016 revival.
I haven’t watched the anime Powerpuff Girls Z, but it looks pretty dumb.
McCracken era only. Accept no substitutes.
Apparently McCracken is bringing it back…. and as much as I want to say I’m excited, after the 2016 abomination I’m a little afraid.
The revival will have absolutely no connection to the 2016 version, so I’m not worried about that whatsoever.
I just hope it’s as faithful to the ’98 cartoon as possible.
No twerking or saying outdated internet slang or shoehorning memes or selfies or anything like that.
And I pray to GOD that the live-action revival whose script was making everybody pour bleach into their eyes doesn’t happen.
This is why I’m worried about a potential “My Life as a Teenage Robot” reboot, because there’s the possibility of it being completely fucked up like PPG 2016.
For a MLAATR reboot to be good, they’d have to recapture the magic of the 2002 cartoon, right down to the same art style and tone. Maybe replace some of the VAs, as Janice Kawaye and Candi Milo’s best days are behind them now.
And sadly, with the track record of cartoon reboots we have, I doubt that’s going to happen. 😦
What a shambolic, irredeemable affair this was. Just when you think Jean can’t possibly get any worse, he reaches a new depth of badness. It’s astonishing how the first half of the episode took place mostly in two locations (the bell tower and the train), but still failed to muster more than a few seconds of coherence at a time. Every single moment that could have delivered a morsel of insight and sincerity was contaminated by the worst possible joke writing.
Genuinely among the worst, most incomprehensible episodes of all time. I’d almost watch Days of Future Future over this.
I agree. For once Mike was too lenient. Abominable. Plus, what’s the relevance of “When Harry met Sally” to an episode airing in 2022??
But what prompted me to write a comment is the joke on “matricide / mattress side”. Probably the worst joke I’ve ever heard in a Simpsons episode. If not the worst joke I’ve ever heard in my life!
Lisa/Nelson freak fan over here. This episode ended being boring and did nothing to me, even if I love the shipping (much better than Lisa/Milhouse imo).
I felt empty for the boring jokes and because in the end none of these future episodes really count anyway. So why bother after all these years?
I know this is a reference to When Harry met Sally but do you think they first had the idea for the episode because “Nelson met Lisa” sounds a bit like “Nelson Mandela”?
Can Jean just fucking retire already?
He’s gotta be, what, in his mid-60s by now? I feel like everyone on this show, from the writers to the directors to the voice actors, has reached retirement age. Hell, Harry Shearer and Julie Kavner are in their 70s.
It’s like those Looney Tunes specials they did in the ’80s when Chuck Jones could only write weird flowery self-indulgent Mark Twain-lite dialogue and Mel Blanc’s voice was absolutely wrecked from old age but nobody wanted to say anything. It’s so obvious that the spark is gone, but everyone just tries to pretend it’s not.